[Patch 8.9] Mage Items Adjustments Discussion - Page 3
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General_Winter
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But I’ve played enouph games to notice some trends. When I get a gank level 3 or 4 and it gets a kill my team almost always wins. When I don’t get any ganks my team almost always loses. I’ve watched 30+ladder Camille games from Khan, Smeb, and Thal, and they always get early midgame ganks from their teams, often multiple ganks. It’s hard for me to know if this is because Camille really benefits from the ganks, or if people on Korean solo queue just know that Khan / Smeb is going to be the best player on their team and that’s who should get the ganks. So I suppose my question now is, can Camille function as an island champion without team support? Do I just need to learn the champ better, or should I be looking for a champ that’s more self sufficient and relies less on the team. For example, on the AP side, you can play Vlad and even if you never get a single gank and get camped most of the game, you still stay at decent heath and reach a point where you can single handedly blow up the back line late game. Is there an AD champ that’s more “Vladlike” than Camille? | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Camille is a pretty insanely strong champion in soloQ, you own a lot of matchups if you knows her mechanics well. You can also play aggressive because her E is a decent escape, and diving when she has ult is risky. She scales well into the lategame no matter how far she gets set behind. Obviously it can be hard to win lane when you get camped, but dealing with that is a general game skill, not really tied to Camille herself. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Winning games is less about "how do I just solo carry" and more about figuring your best role in the situation. Sometimes that means playing backseat to your team, just playing safe letting them get the ball rolling. Sometimes that means sacrificing some pressure to create a play on the opposite side. Sometimes that means sitting in your lane bodying your lane opponent. Maybe just try watch your games and see if there's more you could be doing. | ||
Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On May 06 2018 08:30 General_Winter wrote: Well the Camille losing streak continues and I’ve gone from playing normals with mostly gold and silver to playing normals with high bronze low silver. I am winning some games now (slightly less than every other game rather than losing them all). But I’ve played enouph games to notice some trends. When I get a gank level 3 or 4 and it gets a kill my team almost always wins. When I don’t get any ganks my team almost always loses. I’ve watched 30+ladder Camille games from Khan, Smeb, and Thal, and they always get early midgame ganks from their teams, often multiple ganks. It’s hard for me to know if this is because Camille really benefits from the ganks, or if people on Korean solo queue just know that Khan / Smeb is going to be the best player on their team and that’s who should get the ganks. So I suppose my question now is, can Camille function as an island champion without team support? Do I just need to learn the champ better, or should I be looking for a champ that’s more self sufficient and relies less on the team. For example, on the AP side, you can play Vlad and even if you never get a single gank and get camped most of the game, you still stay at decent heath and reach a point where you can single handedly blow up the back line late game. Is there an AD champ that’s more “Vladlike” than Camille? All splitpushers benefit immensely from ganks, the whole point of them is to reach critical mass where nobody can contain them, in the early game just being a longsword ahead can be enough. The earlier this happens the better for the entire team. Gangplank is probably the most similar to Vlad, but he's sort of soft to ganks early. | ||
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JimmiC
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DarkCore
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On May 06 2018 17:57 DarkCore wrote: Oh man, that sucks. Are you making a new account? In that case it'd be totally worth buying a boosted account, even if it's not allowed. I've been trying to level a smurf for years, and it's just not worth my time and the amount of flaming/afking/trolling I have to put up with in sub lv 30. Bot games. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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I won't make a new account, especially since games tend to last at least 25-30min + on average, I don't have time to level up a new account. Also 0 champions owned, so that's another disadvantage. I'll ask someone around if they have an account to share, so I can play like 2-3 games every 2nd or 3rd day, cause I'm just a casual nowadays >.< | ||
Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
There are barely any champions (17) on it, and its name isn't too fancy. You can pm me if interested, then I can give you the details. | ||
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Ansibled
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Leveling up new account is not for me, I don't have that much time. Would be neat to get already lvl30 account with some nice champion pool or some IPs to buy those who interests me (Lux, Gragas mainly and couple of those new ones) | ||
Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Isn't ARAM games just as fast now? | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Also, queue times can get very long. I've waited 10+ min for a 15 min stomp. | ||
Yorbon
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