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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Joined December 2005
Netherlands0 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 16:47:24
June 02 2019 12:31 GMT
#1
Poker Mafia

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Game canceled due to lack of interest


Please note that the setup and rules are subject to change prior to game start.


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Day 1



Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.


Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 20:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.


Rules:

The basic TL rules are below and any changes will be listed in the FAQ post
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Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Questions:
PLEASE PM ALL QUESTIONS TO THE HOSTS. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS IN THREAD. THEY WILL NOT BE ANSWERED UNLESS PM'D.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.

Spam:
Spam is not tolerated. This means you should condense your posts when possible. 15 one-liners in 30 minutes is unacceptable. Bantering off topic however is fully endorsed.

Encryption:
Don't do it.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of TL where it is okay to double post or even triple-post. While you should try to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM the host, a co-host, or GMarshal before involving the other TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can discuss the situation with other members of the TL staff.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, or GMarshal before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

PM the host if you need to leave the game for any reason but you are encouraged to try and make a little time to make a few posts. An hour per day is enough for most people to make a meaningful contribution to the game.

You have been warned.



Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia (and town circles if PMs are allowed) to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk.

Observers
If you would like to observe this game, please PM me for access to the observer QuickTopic. If you receive access to the observer QuickTopic, do not discuss this game with the players until this game is over.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located *here*. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
6. This game uses a plurality lynch. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.) In the event of a tie, the player who first received enough votes will be lynched.




Signups:

This game is open to anyone. Signups will remain open until an arbitrary time or player count has been reached.



Game-specific rules:

Smurfs:
Smurfs are allowed

Hydras:
Hydras are allowed this game if players agree. If anyone does not want a hydra in the game, please PM me before the game begins.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until and during Day 2. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list.

PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game.



Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer.
Thanks to everyone who helped balance this game.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Joined December 2005
Netherlands0 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-04 19:48:19
June 02 2019 12:31 GMT
#2
Setup
Each day phase, players will be dealt 2 cards. Three cards will be laid out as the community board, also known as the flop. After 24 hours, the turn and river will be dealt. 24 hours later, the day ends and a showdown commences if more than one player are still in the hand. The winning player receives a powerup related to their hand strength. Any players still left in the hand that lose will not be dealt in on the next hand.

Players have the following actions available:

All-in
All-in can only be used in the first 16 hours of the Flop or the Turn/River phase. When a player goes ##All-in, they will announce this in the voting thread. Any players that wish to continue playing the hand will need to post ##Call. Players taking no action on an All-in will default to a fold and will be dealt in again next hand.

Call
This action can be used to call an All-in. In the event an all-in is made and is called, these players as well as any other players will head to the showdown. The player that went all-in will show their hand first. If the caller lost, their hand will not be shown. If the caller beats the hand of the all-in player, it will be shown, even if it is beaten by another caller.

Additionally, in case you already know that you wish to call an All-in but are unable to be there before deadline, you may PM me and any cohosts that you wish to call in case of an all-in.

Fold
At any time, you may ##Fold your hand by posting this in the vote thread. If all players but one fold, that player will win the hand by default and will not have to show his/her hand. This action is only possible if you have not yet gone all-in or called an all-in.

Show hand
Players that win without a showdown, or callers that lose to the player going all-in may choose to show their hand. In this case, please PM me and any cohosts that you wish to show your hand.



Powerups
Players gain a set amount of points based on their hand strength. Should a mafia member win the hand, they will receive their own powerup listed after the divide.
High card: No powerup // One-shot frame
Pair up to a pair of tens: One-use night vest // Rolecop
Pair of jacks - aces: Cop check // One-shot roleblock
Two pair: You become a Veteran // Framer
Three of a kind: You become a Cop // Roleblocker
Straight: You become a Watcher // Assassin
Flush: You become a Vigilante // Mafia Vigilante
Full house: You become a Day Vigilante // Mafia Day Vigilante
Four of a kind: You become a Mayor // Mayor
Straight/Royal Flush: Whichever alignment gets it instantly wins the game.

Role explanations
Night vest
You get a vest that protects you from a shot, but you have to choose which night to use it in. Once you use it, it's gone. Vest stops a shot, but can be roleblocked.

Cop check
One-time use, can be used on any night. Reveals alignment of player X.

Veteran
You soak an extra shot. Can be roleblocked.

Cop
Same as cop check, but can be used once each night.

Watcher
Visit house of player X. Informed of anyone who visits them.

(Day) Vigilante
During the Day/night, you may shoot any player once. Can be roleblocked at night, in which case the bullet is refunded. Day vigilantes can not be shot at night during the night they received their ability.

Mayor
You gain an extra vote for the lynch and two players in the game are randomly assigned as your bodyguard. You cannot be shot until these two players are dead. If one of them is mafia, they do not actually protect you. You are informed of their identity.

(One-shot) Framer
Can be used on any player. Flips the alignment of said player to the opposite of what it is.

(one-shot) Roleblocker
Blocks player X from using any action during that night. In case it is used on a Veteran, it makes them vulnerable.

Assassin
The Watcher does not detect you if you carry the kill during the night. You pierce veteran protection.

(Day) Vigilante
You know how this works.

Mayor
You gain an extra vote for the lynch and two players in the game are randomly assigned as your bodyguard. You gain an extra night kill. You are informed of their identity.

FAQ
What is poker?
If you're unfamiliar with the game of poker, I would advise checking out one of the many resources online regarding the basics. The most important thing to know is the hand values, which you can find in the opening post. The best combination of 5 cards from the 2 in your hand and the 5 on the community board will make your best hand.

Can I send other conditional actions, such as going all-in if no one has yet 1 hour before the action deadline or only calling an all-in by deadline if no one else has yet?
No. These pre-submit actions are only intended to assist players that live in other timezones.

Can I use the action I got in my action the same night?
Yup!

Can abilities stack? Can I become the Veteran Cop Watcher?
Yup! You be you, man.

Are there any blues or mafia roles at the start of the game?
Nope.

Do bodyguards receive a PM?
Nope.

What happens if no bets are made until the end of the hand?
All players reveal their hands. The player with the best hand is given the relevant ability. All other players sit out the next hand. If the player dies during the night, everyone is dealt in again instead.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Joined December 2005
Netherlands0 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 16:47:40
June 02 2019 12:32 GMT
#3
RIP
KelsierSC
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
June 02 2019 13:41 GMT
#4
Complicated

/obs
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom941 Posts
June 02 2019 14:40 GMT
#5
haven't read any of the op but /in
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States76 Posts
June 02 2019 15:48 GMT
#6
/obs
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Joined December 2005
Netherlands0 Posts
June 02 2019 19:28 GMT
#7
On June 02 2019 22:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Complicated

/obs

It's not that complicated, it's basically a regular mafia game but people get blue roles by winning the poker minigame
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States0 Posts
June 02 2019 20:27 GMT
#8
Itch to play now life is calm. Poker is also fun. Idk if I am banned though since it doesnt look like the banlist is updated. If it is though, I'll serve my time

/in or sitout
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States0 Posts
June 02 2019 21:38 GMT
#9
On June 03 2019 05:27 Shapelog wrote:
Itch to play now life is calm. Poker is also fun. Idk if I am banned though since it doesnt look like the banlist is updated. If it is though, I'll serve my time

/in or sitout

Ban list was destroyed!

Blazinghand died for our sins and now all are set free.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States0 Posts
June 02 2019 22:31 GMT
#10
On June 03 2019 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 05:27 Shapelog wrote:
Itch to play now life is calm. Poker is also fun. Idk if I am banned though since it doesnt look like the banlist is updated. If it is though, I'll serve my time

/in or sitout

Ban list was destroyed!

Blazinghand died for our sins and now all are set free.

Dear god!

A-and the post game analysis! Did he finish that too?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States0 Posts
June 02 2019 22:44 GMT
#11
On June 03 2019 07:31 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 03 2019 05:27 Shapelog wrote:
Itch to play now life is calm. Poker is also fun. Idk if I am banned though since it doesnt look like the banlist is updated. If it is though, I'll serve my time

/in or sitout

Ban list was destroyed!

Blazinghand died for our sins and now all are set free.

Dear god!

A-and the post game analysis! Did he finish that too?

Nope, but some of the faithful await his second coming.

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On March 15 2014 03:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 04:55 Blazinghand wrote:
Believe it or not I am actually still working on this write-up. I'll try to have it done before the end of February.

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wherebugsgo
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan24 Posts
June 02 2019 23:42 GMT
#12
/in if this starts in time to finish before the 28th
pre-game note that I’ll post a lot less than normal this game. And probably skip night phases
Pandain
Profile Joined May 2010
United States5 Posts
June 03 2019 07:37 GMT
#13
/obs for now

I'll probably switch to /in if it starts in more than a week
KelsierSC
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-06-03 07:55:06
June 03 2019 07:45 GMT
#14
Can I ask

What happens if no one all ins? Can you fold your hand at anytime with ##fold?

Edit - maybe you've thought of this already but doesn't mafia get a huge advantage knowing what role is given and who receives it. As long as one other person calls the All in then mafia know the role and who has it , someone gets cop, just shoot that guy.

Then again there is a lot of mind games and things to consider with the minigame but its unlikely anyone gets an overpowered role hmm seems very interesting.

/in
Zerg for Life
wherebugsgo
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan24 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-03 08:38:33
June 03 2019 08:37 GMT
#15
Is there a point in folding? I guess it’s beneficial for townies?

Actually, what’s the point of doing anything other than all-in/calling (i.e. what happens if you lose the hand other than nothing?)

E: missed this part


Any players still left in the hand that lose will not be dealt in on the next hand.

Pandain
Profile Joined May 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-03 08:38:17
June 03 2019 08:37 GMT
#16
Have you done the statistics on this? Like if there are ten people, what is likely to be the highest hand?

If there ends up being a bunch of people, I could see a lot of powerful roles being given out just by the sheer statistics of someone having a good hand.
On June 03 2019 17:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is there a point in folding? I guess it’s beneficial for townies?

Actually, what’s the point of doing anything other than all-in/calling (i.e. what happens if you lose the hand other than nothing?)


If you're still in the hand at the end and lose, you don't get dealt the following hand.
KelsierSC
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
June 03 2019 08:46 GMT
#17
I could also see it being a pro town move to fold if you have a strong town read who all ins. That way they get given a role but mafia doesn't know what it is.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
June 03 2019 08:47 GMT
#18
in split pot situations do all players get a role?
Zerg for Life
wherebugsgo
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan24 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-03 12:02:53
June 03 2019 11:59 GMT
#19
e: ah Kelsier beat me to it :p but +1 to this:

We’ll pretty much always know the winner and what they won if someone all-ins, right.

So unless scum is okay with them using a power unmolested they’re pretty much guaranteed to be dead if they’re town and don’t get a vet power (which mafia will know)

That makes day vig useless because they’ll always die before using it

E: makes all the investigative roles useless too. Basically nothing except vigi vet and mayor is useful to town
KelsierSC
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
June 03 2019 12:26 GMT
#20
It's a very interesting minigame . Someone more intelligent than me might be able to break the game with it but tbh most of the super powerful roles are pretty unlikely, one shot cop checks, veterans etc are your most likely outcomes.
Definitely a lot of bluffing you can do , really curious how it all plays out.
Zerg for Life
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