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[Patch 11.17] Pentakill Returns General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
August 25 2021 09:46 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

Patch 11.17: Live on August. 25, 2021

Team Fight Tactics Patch 11.17 Live on August. 25, 2021

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Patch 11.15 Akshan Release General Discussion
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
August 25 2021 12:05 GMT
#2
Akshan can no longer revive teammates when he's dead

My god, Riot actually listened.

- GP buffs seem pretty good, they gutted his late game and now they are buffing it again.
- Lucian changes are just a big wtf, Combined with Nami buffs, it almost feels like they want people to play the 2 champs together bot.
- +3 dmg for Teemo, another troll change.
- Riot buffing Xayah for Worlds, fleet footwork change could mean Cait might be viable again.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland5375 Posts
August 25 2021 16:10 GMT
#3
Lucian changes are puzzling, but Xayah buffs are just ????, especially when Rakan is already a very important champion in some regions. If they want to increase Xayah's win rate in solo Q, they should rework her after Worlds. I like playing her, but it's a bad time to buff her.
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FaCE_1
Profile Joined December 2006
Canada550 Posts
August 25 2021 16:23 GMT
#4
world will be on 11.17 ?
n_n
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland5375 Posts
August 25 2021 18:30 GMT
#5
Google says 11.19



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Turbovolver
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia51 Posts
August 25 2021 23:23 GMT
#6
On August 25 2021 21:05 DarkCore wrote:
- Lucian changes are just a big wtf, Combined with Nami buffs, it almost feels like they want people to play the 2 champs together bot.

I did "appreciate" the way the patch notes straight-up say "don't worry, we haven't forgotten about you, fans of the off-meta lulz" in the explanation for the very entry where they arbitrarily try to shove Lucian back bot with another bolt-on nonsense mechanic because he's apparently not allowed to be in mid.
The original Bogus fan.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-26 02:33:29
August 26 2021 02:33 GMT
#7
Bolt-on mechanics are such an inelegant way of fixing champs and they are so fkn hard to understand as a player without reading patch notes religiously.

My most hated bolt-on mechanic was the 90% dmg mechanic for Kalista.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria1197 Posts
August 26 2021 07:52 GMT
#8
The core of the League design is built on exceptions, inconsistencies and band aids. There is not a single rule that doesnt have plenty exceptions for zillions different reasons: bugs, technology is not there, we coded it wrong, forgot about the rule, its new and needs to be shiny and so on
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
August 26 2021 09:33 GMT
#9
Yeah, 150+ champions will do that. Riot tries to make every new champion unique in some way, and that usually translates to breaking fundamental aspects of the game. Once upon a time that translated to Ryze scaling with mana, Sion zombie, Neeko transform etc. Now it's stuff like Akshan revive, Sylas/Viego stealing abilities. At some point, I expect Riot to release a champion that can fully imitate another champion, with 'bolted on' mechanics to try and balance it.

New GP changes seem very wonky, he is forced to go crit, and his previous problem has resurfaced: either you hit a crit barrel and solo win the game, or you don't and feel completely useless. And his passive MS nerf is substantial, crit forces him to be a glass cannon but he doesn't have the old escape capabilities.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-31 16:14:06
August 31 2021 16:07 GMT
#10
On August 26 2021 18:33 DarkCore wrote:
New GP changes seem very wonky, he is forced to go crit, and his previous problem has resurfaced: either you hit a crit barrel and solo win the game, or you don't and feel completely useless. And his passive MS nerf is substantial, crit forces him to be a glass cannon but he doesn't have the old escape capabilities.

They should honestly just have done the Q change and maaaaaybe add an additional barrel at max rank to compensate. Aside from his braindead Q poke he was in the healthiest place he has ever been.

Graves not being allowed to lane is so silly. I hate when Riot does this kind of "this champion is only allowed as x". Think the Teemo change is a calculated last hit breakpoint.

Wit's End nerf finally hit is hilarious, ARAM players have abused the SB+Wits ADC build for months on end. Serpent's Fang is probably going to be nerfed in the future if shield champs get popular. :D
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
September 01 2021 14:54 GMT
#11
So patch 11.8 info is out, and there's a very interesting Draven change, a champ some streamers called the best 'real' ADC even before this:

Hits on enemy champions that would leave their current HP below Draven's current League of Draven stack count will execute them

That's actually a terrifying time bomb, if he farms well and comes back with a BF sword for level 6 with a 50+ dmg execute, imo he has a brutal all in. I don't think it will be too impactful in soloQ, but he might see a few bans at Worlds.

Happy with a lot of the champ nerfs, they were needed before Worlds. And no crazy champ buffs, I don't think any of them will become insta pick because of number changes.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria1197 Posts
September 01 2021 17:37 GMT
#12
the draven buff/change is interesting and it will make the champ more interesting, but it may push him over the edge for pro play imo
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland5375 Posts
September 01 2021 17:38 GMT
#13
Isn't that Zoe E 4 second cd reduction kind of big? Not must pick/ban big, but it's going to make her both safer and more threatening.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
September 05 2021 00:15 GMT
#14
New champ!



Looks...super 2020. Going to be interesting to see as it appears as though they are have rather low range abilities and their ult? is a blink in.

Apparently, they are a midlaner.
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JimmiC
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada11490 Posts
September 05 2021 16:58 GMT
#15
Is this viegar and annies child or cousin?
Emnjay #1 in the worldo
Jek
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark2382 Posts
September 05 2021 17:42 GMT
#16
I love her design. Yordles are all dank and memey. She pulls off a dark Lulu kind of feel. 😊
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France24913 Posts
September 05 2021 19:06 GMT
#17
Isn't that a Vistara or something like that? Whatever they call their non-human, non-shuriman champions now.
And I guess her calling other normies is "memey" but, uh... also pretty jarring.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland5375 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-05 21:03:18
September 05 2021 19:54 GMT
#18
You're probably thinking about Vastayans. And Vex is certainly a Yordle.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria1197 Posts
September 06 2021 09:54 GMT
#19
A gipsy and a yordle. Two non human characters mid this year xD
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland5375 Posts
September 06 2021 10:29 GMT
#20
Based
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