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2019 Worlds Play-In & Group Stage Draw Results!

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
September 23 2019 15:03 GMT
#1
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FaCE_1
Profile Joined December 2006
Canada550 Posts
September 23 2019 14:53 GMT
#2
dam, fine post !

Play in stage Group A could be interesting !!

TL have good chance advancing
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
September 23 2019 15:08 GMT
#3
On September 23 2019 23:53 FaCE_1 wrote:
dam, fine post !

Play in stage Group A could be interesting !!

TL have good chance advancing


Ty spent far too long making this haha :D

If DAMWON get into their group (assuming they move on they'll be either B or D) it could change tho...
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States717 Posts
September 23 2019 16:01 GMT
#4
ohh nice format, part of we wants DWG to go to D but I also want them in B for the free quarters
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands1035 Posts
September 23 2019 16:47 GMT
#5
My thoughts in order:
- whoa, all these colours....
- Group B is rigged
- Oh wait, phoenix is lpl
- Wait, pheonix...?

Thanks for making this, I missed everything completely.

I'll be rooting for Griffin this year. I wanted them to go to worlds last year so badly..
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Uldridge
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium2105 Posts
September 23 2019 19:03 GMT
#6
I absolutely love these groups. Good balance, we get a group of death, good chances for Western teams. Consider me hyped!
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3160 Posts
September 23 2019 20:59 GMT
#7
There are a lot of words I'd use to describe these groups, balanced isn't close to one of them
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
September 24 2019 09:55 GMT
#8
On September 24 2019 01:47 Yorbon wrote:
My thoughts in order:
- whoa, all these colours....
- Group B is rigged
- Oh wait, phoenix is lpl
- Wait, pheonix...?

Thanks for making this, I missed everything completely.

I'll be rooting for Griffin this year. I wanted them to go to worlds last year so badly..


Trying something new so...let me know if that was an "I hate colour give me more muted black and white stuff" or a yay colours!

Also, fixed that typo :D
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
September 24 2019 17:05 GMT
#9
There are a lot of words I'd use to describe these groups, balanced isn't close to one of them


Lots of people moaning on Reddit that there needs to be a third pool for teams that get an auto spot in the main tournament but are obviously not major regions. Technically, everyone in group B is a first seed for their region, let that sink in. But I don't think the groups are that bad honestly, it just so happens that this year there are a lot of strong teams, there was a high likelihood of 3 of them landing in a single group. There's a likelihood that the 4 teams will make the groups even more lopsided though, which isn't too great.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3160 Posts
September 24 2019 23:33 GMT
#10
On September 25 2019 02:05 DarkCore wrote:
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There are a lot of words I'd use to describe these groups, balanced isn't close to one of them


Lots of people moaning on Reddit that there needs to be a third pool for teams that get an auto spot in the main tournament but are obviously not major regions. Technically, everyone in group B is a first seed for their region, let that sink in. But I don't think the groups are that bad honestly, it just so happens that this year there are a lot of strong teams, there was a high likelihood of 3 of them landing in a single group. There's a likelihood that the 4 teams will make the groups even more lopsided though, which isn't too great.


I think the easier solution is boot out LMS seed 3, put seed 2 in play ins, and give an extra group stage spot to the region that wins MSI. Rekkles says it best in Fnatic's video, their group is 3 of the top 5 teams at the tournament yet they're all meeting each other in group stage where 1 can't advance. No other format has that kind of shit. Group A has the most recent international champion, last year's semifinalists, and the second best team in Korea. But B and to an extent D is a literal joke.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States22806 Posts
September 25 2019 00:44 GMT
#11
Assuming no upsets in play-ins, I think these are pretty good groups for NA.

C9 will depend on how well Griffin shows up in a high pressure situation and there's a chance that G2 can flake out in groups again.

Clutch is fucked by being forced into C, but they were probably fucked regardless by virtue of being NA3.

TL will probably be a double coinflip of "Do they get Splyce or do they get Damwon?" and "Does Worlds iG show up or does MSI iG show up?"
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands1035 Posts
September 25 2019 17:51 GMT
#12
On September 24 2019 18:55 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2019 01:47 Yorbon wrote:
My thoughts in order:
- whoa, all these colours....
- Group B is rigged
- Oh wait, phoenix is lpl
- Wait, pheonix...?

Thanks for making this, I missed everything completely.

I'll be rooting for Griffin this year. I wanted them to go to worlds last year so badly..


Trying something new so...let me know if that was an "I hate colour give me more muted black and white stuff" or a yay colours!

Also, fixed that typo :D

Nah, I don't mind the colours that much. I think it was tiredness, in combination with the black screen on the front page that gave me that reaction. My instinctive reaction was also to find a pattern in the colours (eg region, seed or whatever), which obviously didn't work. Team colours in lol have very little meaning to me personally.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
380 Posts
October 07 2019 02:14 GMT
#13
I was actually a bit sad that Clutch got in. Nothing against them; I'd just like to see LCS get brought down a peg.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States22806 Posts
October 07 2019 08:11 GMT
#14
On October 07 2019 11:14 geript wrote:
I was actually a bit sad that Clutch got in. Nothing against them; I'd just like to see LCS get brought down a peg.

How many pegs do you think LCS has? lol
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
October 07 2019 08:48 GMT
#15
What he really means is that he enjoys watching NA underperform their already low expectations. EU and LPL appear to have finally caught up to KR, meanwhile NA just derps around.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4753 Posts
October 07 2019 08:51 GMT
#16
On October 07 2019 17:48 DarkCore wrote:
What he really means is that he enjoys watching NA underperform their already low expectations. EU and LPL appear to have finally caught up to KR, meanwhile NA just derps around.


Translation: I wanted TSM to make Worlds so we could all laugh at TSM again.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
380 Posts
October 07 2019 16:48 GMT
#17
On October 07 2019 17:51 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 17:48 DarkCore wrote:
What he really means is that he enjoys watching NA underperform their already low expectations. EU and LPL appear to have finally caught up to KR, meanwhile NA just derps around.


Translation: I wanted TSM to make Worlds so we could all laugh at TSM again.

I would not have hated this. Seriously though, a lot of NA fans I’ve talked to (though) not people who have any decent understanding of the game still think NA is closing the gap. I think LCK and LPL are pretty even with the side the meta favors ending up on top (a scrappy meta favors LPL and s controlled meta favors LCK. I think the top of EU is pretty close to both but the region as a whole being pretty far off. I was just kinda hoping that the two NA teams seeded in groups crapped out hardcore and the third didn’t even end up coming out of their play-in group of 3. It’d kinda feel like justice. Plus, it looked like given the draws this year had that potential to be the NA dream crusher.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States22806 Posts
October 08 2019 00:50 GMT
#18
On October 08 2019 01:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 17:51 AdsMoFro wrote:
On October 07 2019 17:48 DarkCore wrote:
What he really means is that he enjoys watching NA underperform their already low expectations. EU and LPL appear to have finally caught up to KR, meanwhile NA just derps around.


Translation: I wanted TSM to make Worlds so we could all laugh at TSM again.

I would not have hated this. Seriously though, a lot of NA fans I’ve talked to (though) not people who have any decent understanding of the game still think NA is closing the gap. I think LCK and LPL are pretty even with the side the meta favors ending up on top (a scrappy meta favors LPL and s controlled meta favors LCK. I think the top of EU is pretty close to both but the region as a whole being pretty far off. I was just kinda hoping that the two NA teams seeded in groups crapped out hardcore and the third didn’t even end up coming out of their play-in group of 3. It’d kinda feel like justice. Plus, it looked like given the draws this year had that potential to be the NA dream crusher.

I think people are overrating G2 based off a single tournament and I've not seen *anybody* that things the gap between NA and the other major regions is closing.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4009 Posts
October 08 2019 08:04 GMT
#19
Not here for sure, we are all enlightened intellectuals who have been graced by the truth, which is that NA sucks. TL and C9 might have some decent games, and might even do well depending on how groups and playoff draws end up, but there was a reason TL got stomped by G2.

Quality of the mid tier EU teams dropped between seasons imo, I thought OG would become a contender for 2nd place, instead they didn't improve much, SO4 never seemed to get better either. MSF crashed and burned big time, VIT needs no explanation, RGE started picking up pace too late.
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cezi
Profile Joined October 2019
Poland3 Posts
October 27 2019 18:08 GMT
#20
Cant wait for semifinals
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