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Riot and Tencent join to make an esports company called TJ Sports. Unsure what it means for now. | ||
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- Riot announces a new website centred around NA LCS. - The NA LCS Players Association announces a new rule to ensure the Echo Fox fiasco of cutting players before deadlines don't occur again. - Riot match history team is up in the air. This change could be potentially crippling for third-party sites. | ||
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On January 15 2019 18:19 DarkCore wrote: Figuring out their approach? That's some vague info, could mean anything. If Riot tries to shut down third party sites, think I'd be done with the game. I assume they want to build it into lolesports instead of it being a part of the league of legends section of league but they either don't know how to do it, or it requires more resources than riot wants to give them. In which case, just keep it how it is. Don't remove it for a couple months while you work on "an alternative" that takes forever. | ||
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SKT joins with Comcast to create the new esports venture ,T1. Idk how to feel about this. On one hand, cool we may get more western access to Faker... but dropping SKT from SKT T1 sounds so wrong. They're rebranding a brand initialized by boxer that has been synonymous with winning for nearly 20 years? Yikes. Like buying Nike and calling it joes athletics or something. Just bizarre. | ||
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On February 25 2019 22:40 iCanada wrote: https://esportsobserver.com/comcast-sk-telecom-venture/ SKT joins with Comcast to create the new esports venture ,T1. Idk how to feel about this. On one hand, cool we may get more western access to Faker... but dropping SKT from SKT T1 sounds so wrong. They're rebranding a brand initialized by boxer that has been synonymous with winning for nearly 20 years? Yikes. Like buying Nike and calling it joes athletics or something. Just bizarre. Pretty sad about this So much history lost. I'd prefer if at the very least the League team remained SKT T1 since Philadelphia is staying the same. Also, T1 is a pretty fucking boring name if you're gonna rename. | ||
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I agree, T1 is a pretty boring name. What does it even mean, team 1? Never thought about it until now. | ||
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It's a branding failure to delete SKT on its own... how can you drop the legacy ofiguys like iloveoov, Fantasy, Bisu from your brand? it's even more puzzling considering T1 is already a popular brand in the realm of western league of legends. Especially so considering the vitriol comcast as a brand creates. | ||
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Also the vitriol over Comcast has been dying down a bit but the people who really don't like them tend to overlap with the reddit demographic/gamers. I've been hearing they are continuously trying to get more involved with esports and my bet is a non-trivial part of that is trying to change their image within the aforementioned communities. Oh and I guess it helps that the CEO's son likes gaming I also hated Comcast since they really did have shitty customer service when I first used them about 5 years ago. However since then I've had to use them several times more as I hopped apartment to apartment and customer service has gotten really good. Very anecdotal but have been hearing the same thing with most people I know who use comcast. I hope they and other companies have learned that it is much harder to fix a bad reputation than ruin a good one | ||
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On February 27 2019 08:46 dsyxelic wrote: They're not actually called Comcast T1 right? Also the vitriol over Comcast has been dying down a bit but the people who really don't like them tend to overlap with the reddit demographic/gamers. I've been hearing they are continuously trying to get more involved with esports and my bet is a non-trivial part of that is trying to change their image within the aforementioned communities. Oh and I guess it helps that the CEO's son likes gaming I also hated Comcast since they really did have shitty customer service when I first used them about 5 years ago. However since then I've had to use them several times more as I hopped apartment to apartment and customer service has gotten really good. Very anecdotal but have been hearing the same thing with most people I know who use comcast. I hope they and other companies have learned that it is much harder to fix a bad reputation than ruin a good one No, they're just called T1. | ||
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On February 27 2019 13:01 AdsMoFro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2019 08:46 dsyxelic wrote: They're not actually called Comcast T1 right? Also the vitriol over Comcast has been dying down a bit but the people who really don't like them tend to overlap with the reddit demographic/gamers. I've been hearing they are continuously trying to get more involved with esports and my bet is a non-trivial part of that is trying to change their image within the aforementioned communities. Oh and I guess it helps that the CEO's son likes gaming I also hated Comcast since they really did have shitty customer service when I first used them about 5 years ago. However since then I've had to use them several times more as I hopped apartment to apartment and customer service has gotten really good. Very anecdotal but have been hearing the same thing with most people I know who use comcast. I hope they and other companies have learned that it is much harder to fix a bad reputation than ruin a good one No, they're just called T1. weird, might as well just change the name completely then | ||
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My picture of Comcast is painted by Reddit posts, since I don't live in the US. So I just thought it was funny seeing them pop in KR of all places. | ||
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For example, off the top of my head I can't name something memorable that has happened on air from the last year, whereas I do remember a lot from the old IEMs. On top of that that there are a lot of good tournament structures that can be used as an alternative to the same old LCS split system. Also, I agree with the previous poster that the counterstrike majors are some of the best tournaments in esports right now, maybe only eclipsed by the International. | ||
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On a side note, iG lost to a Righteous Glory, Rylais, Liandries Ryze, is this a new build or a niche pick? | ||
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On March 04 2019 01:18 DarkCore wrote: iG met KT in quarterfinals just this past Worlds, and won Worlds, so your point is kind of moot. It's even more ironic because iG was the team that didn't get first, they played Fnatic in the finals and absolutely stomped, but had a really close series vs KT. Which is exactly why I think a loser's bracket is a good idea, we might've seen an Fnatic vs iG series in semis, and then iG could fight the winner in the grand finals. The point was if they do poorly in groups, iG did do poorly in groups and got matched up against a 1st place team in KT | ||
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On March 04 2019 03:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 01:18 DarkCore wrote: iG met KT in quarterfinals just this past Worlds, and won Worlds, so your point is kind of moot. It's even more ironic because iG was the team that didn't get first, they played Fnatic in the finals and absolutely stomped, but had a really close series vs KT. Which is exactly why I think a loser's bracket is a good idea, we might've seen an Fnatic vs iG series in semis, and then iG could fight the winner in the grand finals. The point was if they do poorly in groups, iG did do poorly in groups and got matched up against a 1st place team in KT And in the end KT ended up 5-8th despite the fact they were at least a top 3 team due to a single elimination system, which is the whole point to begin with. | ||
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Rumors that LMS will be shuttered in 2020. RIP to a legendary region. | ||
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On March 09 2019 00:55 AdsMoFro wrote: https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ayfuwq/lms_rumoured_to_close_its_doors_in_2020/ Rumors that LMS will be shuttered in 2020. RIP to a legendary region. I'm not terribly surprised. It must cost a lot to run a whole league, and now that Flash Wolves are RIP there's no team good enough to hard stomp. May as well just add them back to the SEA league and hope for the best | ||
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On March 04 2019 01:18 DarkCore wrote: iG met KT in quarterfinals just this past Worlds, and won Worlds, so your point is kind of moot. It's even more ironic because iG was the team that didn't get first, they played Fnatic in the finals and absolutely stomped, but had a really close series vs KT. Which is exactly why I think a loser's bracket is a good idea, we might've seen an Fnatic vs iG series in semis, and then iG could fight the winner in the grand finals. So while esports actually moved away from having too many days on big stage due to the costs, you want to have at least few extra weeks with playing on stage at Worlds? Also iG-KT was not close, even if the score indicates so, similarly to the RNG-iG final in LPL before that. On March 09 2019 05:47 chipmonklord17 wrote: idk, anyone else who will get shit on? More wildcard spots? Maybe give the region that won the previous year an extra seed or something. They could get creative with it. Or just lump LMS back with SEA and give SEA the spots, that will still probably result in the LMS team getting the spot Reunite the entire GPL, where everybody is going to benefit from it. Vietnam will finally get enough solid scrim partners, LMS will get millions in viewership, LST, well, they can give a slot to Indonesia, which is fun in itself. And Worlds is whatever, this tournament is long gone from having the best possible teams anyway, so can fill it with whoever. | ||
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As a viewer that's never going to see it live anyway that sounds like a way more enjoyable experience anyway. Riot has merely always prioritized the "show" or "hype" surrounding travelling to different venues over the competition itself. | ||
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- MSI - Rift Rivals - Worlds That's it. The worst is for how little international competition we get, most of the teams that participate don't play a lot of games against each other. I think it sucks for the viewers: we don't get a good assessment of how strong teams and regions are relative to one another and your favorite team might play a handful of games then get knocked out because of a single bad game performance. For Worlds specifically, the culmination of a year's effort by the top teams from every region (and pretty much the only tournament that matters), teams only get to play 6 Bo1 games in the group stage and that decides who gets to go on the next stage. Riot decided to get rid of superweeks for the NA/EU LCS but at Worlds, the 2nd week is always a groups "superday" where each team play out 3 games (including the possibility of the 2 games in a row against another opponent) in a high-stake scenario. If you're having a bad day or didn't read the meta correctly, tough luck and see ya next year (if you make it). Also consider that there always seem to be a group of death where 3 (or more) teams are conceivably top 8 or better but only 2 out of the 4 teams in this group get to play in quarters. How is that a good representation of skill and who truly deserved to be top 8? Yet casters and fans use the results of the event to hype up or mock teams for their placements at Worlds. Consider the amount of team match-ups played as well. If you got eliminated at group stage, you only ever got to play 3 other teams. Even if you get to finals, you will only have played 6 other teams in the entirety of the tournament. Compare that to Dota 2's TI. In group stage, each team gets to play against 8 other teams for 16 games total (in Bo2 format). And they manage to do all of that in 4 days! Then they also get a double-elimination format for the main event where 1st and 5th seed get to choose their opponents in upper/lower bracket respectively. In LoL, you've often seen 1st seed teams be sad because their "reward" for doing well in group might be to face a tough opponent that was 2nd seed instead of a weaker team that got 1st seed, all that due to draw RNG and Bo1 variance. I assume Riot wants to have a lot of "suspense" with high stakes game and upset potential with limited Bo1s, which creates story lines and discussion/engagement on social media? They could definitely squeeze in a lot more games per day (look at Dota's TI) but I guess they also want to maximize stream viewership numbers by concentrating a small number of games over a longer period of time? Either way, Riot Games is very stubborn with their Worlds tournament format and not willing to experiment since 2014. On March 09 2019 07:09 Numy wrote: As a viewer that's never going to see it live anyway that sounds like a way more enjoyable experience anyway. The venues Riot book for the group stage have been notoriously small, seating only a few thousand people. So I think you'd have to be pretty lucky to even get the chance to buy a ticket and attend the group stage games before they get sold out or nabbed by scalpers. | ||
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On March 13 2019 06:24 loSleb wrote: But I want to. Then watch Dota in china when they ban all the non-chinese from playing ;P | ||
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On March 09 2019 07:09 Numy wrote: Worlds is exceedingly long for a single elim tournament. They could definitely make a double elim in the same time. It's just they choose to do this world hopping around. So I really disagree with the notion that making it double elim would make it more costly. If they just focused on one venue and did double elim it could cost less than what they have been doing. As a viewer that's never going to see it live anyway that sounds like a way more enjoyable experience anyway. Riot has merely always prioritized the "show" or "hype" surrounding travelling to different venues over the competition itself. It's long not because of single elimination or double elimination. It's because there is that idea in League of Legends esports, that teams are actually supposed to prepare for each other, so you can't have them play best of fives multiple days in a row. So you have to play thirteen best of fives and you can not play more than two per day, because of the time. Even if there are 2-3 days between the series, like in the regional gauntlets, that makes it a 2-3 week long playoffs, and it is no different from the current one. Also if you're using double elimination for top-8, big wildcards will run and ask why are they not having the same format for the play-in as well, which is going to make the event even longer. Worlds is far from perfect, but, honestly, Mid-Season Invitational being a three weeks long event is far more infuriating than the only big annual international event lasting 19 days in different cities. One more thing about the costs: if you're going to host the event in one place, that's supposed to be the big one, right, like, let's say, Paris, Los Angeles or Shanghai. Riot are the ones paying for all the players expenses, accomodation, etc. Surely not more expensive in addition to using a big venue for a month? On March 13 2019 02:47 Torchise wrote: I assume Riot wants to have a lot of "suspense" with high stakes game and upset potential with limited Bo1s, which creates story lines and discussion/engagement on social media? They could definitely squeeze in a lot more games per day (look at Dota's TI) but I guess they also want to maximize stream viewership numbers by concentrating a small number of games over a longer period of time? Either way, Riot Games is very stubborn with their Worlds tournament format and not willing to experiment since 2014. No, they can't squeeze in a lot more games per day, and there is no reason to use The International as an example. Look at the last TI's maps per day during the main event - 8/8/10 (with that game day ending later than midnight, which is unacceptable), 7, 7, 7 - this is exactly two bo5s per day. Let alone the fact, that they have actually started the days in the morning, while Riot events never start before noon, which is serviceable for the players and crowd plus gives the broadcasting crew enough time to actually prepare for the upcoming on-air. | ||
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On April 03 2019 11:57 LightningStrike wrote: Not surprised at all that he got dropped honestly. I wonder what native mids 100 Thieves will take since Huhi didn't take an import slot. If I'm guessing from Academy: Ablazeolive and Yasui strike me as two options. Goldenglue is also a possibility. However, according to Loco, TSM/C9/TL all have big buyouts on their academy players so it's gonna cost em. | ||
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Their celebration with the Treatz cutout was hilarious. | ||
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Point is, JDG look crazy good, Zoom and Flawless were already top tier, but if Imp/LvMao play the way they do, they could legit win LPL. | ||
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On April 06 2019 22:41 DarkCore wrote: Most people don't seem to watch LPL here, but Imp suddenly decided he wants to win something and be world class, never in my life expected him to dumpster Uzi like he did today. It's awesome for people who have watched the dude since his earliest days, used to be my favorite ADC along with Weixiao, before he went to CN and faded into obscurity. Point is, JDG look crazy good, Zoom and Flawless were already top tier, but if Imp/LvMao play the way they do, they could legit win LPL. Imp got dumpstered every lane except the last one. LvMao had a legendary series tho. Uzi mental boom was real in that last game and they've got a guy pulled out of retirement because their past top was too bad as their top laner. Hype built up because of Xiaohu having his patented mid-year one month of good play into be trash the rest of the year but whelp. Was a very fun series to watch tho! | ||
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I'm a bit hyped because they took down what I was hoping to be a resurgent WE, and now beat RNG, which is basically the benchmark separating top and mid tier LPL teams. This is not what I was expecting when I watched their final season games. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/26490773/houston-rockets-agree-sell-majority-stake-clutch-gaming-philadelphia-76ers-20-million | ||
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On April 12 2019 04:53 Numy wrote: Interesting that they get rejected from franchising but then Riot is fine with them purchasing controlling interest in another team. Honestly I thought this was the most interesting part. Although I suppose its possible Dig was always a "replacement" org in case a deal fell through like when Moviestar Riders was replaced with...whoever it was in LEC | ||
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iG looked almost invincible the first two games, Knight pulled back game 3 but top and jungle outclassed pretty hard. Olaf inting to end game 4 was also pretty anticlimatic. | ||
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RIP PRAY Here's a throwback to some content we did on him before: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/511473-living-on-a-prayer-part-1-ascension https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/514648-living-on-a-prayer-part-2-turmoil | ||
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On April 21 2019 19:51 DarkCore wrote: Why the flying fuck would JDG not play their playoffs winning strategy of full damage, roll over the enemy with senseless aggression for their first two games, and then pull it out game 3. This could've been one of the most enjoyable series this year if we got the bloodshed we saw in the final game, and they would've had a much better chance if they didn't put Zoom on Orrn and LvMao on Braum. Such a letdown, at the very least iG looks like a world class team again, games vs SKT should be sick. win your other final games through zoom dominating enemy top on counter picks. Get red side first two games... Pick ornn and sion????? | ||
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Casters mentioned there's a good chance JDG might have failed miserably in scrims, after all this is iG, with their raw talent and the soloQ nature of scrims, they probably dumped hard. But JDG went through playoffs playing exactly one style, and it was not what they showed. Zoom is the only contender in the league on carry power next to the TheShy, and LvMao is all about play making champs, not Braum. Imp is not going to carry the game, I thought it was funny to praise his performance, but their wins were team effort, not solo carry (except for Zoom). Look how hard Flawless tried that last game, imagine if we'd seen that aggressive play style out of him from the start. JDG feel like a team that needs to ramp up during a series, getting into their zone, and the first two drafts took the steam out of them. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://www.dexerto.com/esports/rick-fox-leaving-echo-fox-amid-racist-abuse-from-organization-shareholder-576426 | ||
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EDIT: Riot launched an investigation so maybe my wish is coming true? | ||
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Could the band truly be coming back together? Will clips of Regi, Noah, Jack and Steve doing shots show up on Twitter? | ||
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On May 04 2019 07:50 Gahlo wrote: Immortals looking to buy Optic's parent company. Could the band truly be coming back together? Will clips of Regi, Noah, Jack and Steve doing shots show up on Twitter? Noah no longer part of the staff but owns some shares in the team. Optic selling is like the first "big" esports brand being sold outright. Will be interesting to see what they're worth. | ||
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On May 04 2019 10:51 AdsMoFro wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2019 07:50 Gahlo wrote: Immortals looking to buy Optic's parent company. Could the band truly be coming back together? Will clips of Regi, Noah, Jack and Steve doing shots show up on Twitter? Noah no longer part of the staff but owns some shares in the team. Optic selling is like the first "big" esports brand being sold outright. Will be interesting to see what they're worth. Yup, it's in the article. If the deal goes through, I doubt Noah wouldn't be involved with the League side in some fashion. In other news, Rick Fox is open to the option of staying with Echo Fox IF the racist investor leaves. | ||
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Pour one out for an OG, if he doesn’t find a team by summer split, the last player to have played in every LCS split will be gone. | ||
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On May 07 2019 08:53 Slusher wrote: https://twitter.com/darshanu/status/1125543309252841473?s=21 Pour one out for an OG, if he doesn’t find a team by summer split, the last player to have played in every LCS split will be gone. Doublelift played in every one, even if him supermanning TL out of relegations was short. Also, good. Darshan has been overrated and mediocre for a long time. Ruin to CLG | ||
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if you look at www.liquidlegends.net you will see him rated no higher than 5th going into 2018 spring split, and to be honest, the only player I would say is a free argument for not being lower than him on most lists is Liquorice and I blame Flarez for that | ||
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On May 07 2019 10:08 Slusher wrote: I agree it's probably the correct call, I don't think he was overrated, I really don't think you saw anyone putting him top 5 recently if you look at www.liquidlegends.net you will see him rated no higher than 5th going into 2018 spring split, and to be honest, the only player I would say is a free argument for not being lower than him on most lists is Liquorice and I blame Flarez for that I mean overrated by the general community(basically, reddit) and not here. | ||
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On May 14 2019 08:36 Slusher wrote: It’s an upgrade on anda but forces you to start two NA solo lanes He's NA residency so they play Ssumday still. | ||
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On May 14 2019 09:18 Slusher wrote: And EU says they never import NA players.. Technically speaking he from EU but he got NA residency so (shrugs). Also Sencux departed from Rogue + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/Sencux/status/1128009698949492736 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1128019655082295296 100T announce their summer roster + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/100Thieves/status/1128071714808578048 | ||
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Levi back to Gigabyte Marines. | ||
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Short little retirement! KT PraY!!!! | ||
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https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/brb048/dan_and_nji_new_junglers_of_fnatic_broxah_out/ | ||
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On May 22 2019 06:22 Sent. wrote: Can we tell from the rumors when the supposed conflict started? Would be weird if they started fighting after the team got good again. Could be a case where things improve for a short time but the actual underlying issues remain and eventually bubble back up to the surface. | ||
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XiaoAL from Suning joins RNG to replace LetMe and Steak moves from RW to RNG to head coach, teaming him up with Karsa once again | ||
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https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/tsm-adds-grig-back-to-starting-lineup-2019-lcs-summer | ||
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Well, that's what the optimistic side of me thinks. In reality I think it's a mistake and don't think Grig is special - even by NA terms. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/Sengoku_Gaming/status/1132934530296233985 Inspired is the starting jungler for Rogue + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/Rogue/status/1133095787259412482 | ||
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All EU rosters. Important to note Fnatic still has Broxah and Rekkles so that Reddit drama may have been bullshit | ||
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https://www.goldenguardians.com/news/golden-guardians-announce-academy-team-roster-for-2019-summer-split/ | ||
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https://twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1134129100313026560 Broxah remains the starting jungler. Dan joins as 6th man, | ||
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On May 31 2019 20:03 Gahlo wrote: Fantasy remains closed for the Summer. Fantasy was pretty fun (for the first 3 weeks and then i lose interest D. Sad that it didn't come back. | ||
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On June 07 2019 06:32 Gahlo wrote: If only they'd get rid of that AWFUL owl. Did someone say owl? Riot: Dignitas removed from LCS | ||
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On June 07 2019 06:32 Gahlo wrote: If only they'd get rid of that AWFUL owl. Yeah honestly that's the second worst redesign of an esports team since VP butchered their logo before last TI. I take it back, that fucking Owl is terrible | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/26775352/immortals-rejoin-lcs-following-purchase-optic-gaming | ||
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Californian regulators are taking legal action as part of an investigation into claims of gender bias at Riot Games. (I know it's not e-sports, but I figured this would the best place) | ||
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Rookie ;( | ||
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https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1140894931717742592?s=19 Condi suspended for 18 months by the LPL. LGD terminates its contract with Condi. An LGD manager (unclear if current or former) who was blackmailing him into gambling has been banned for life. | ||
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On June 19 2019 06:41 JimmiC wrote: Betting on your team is a nono, but it is not nearly as bad as betting against your own team! So at least he has that. And he came clean instead of match fixing which is also good. I could see people tilting easier in games when they bet for their team. It becomes more than just the game they're in. | ||
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Interesting to note that this is LGD here...who've not had the best history with match-fixing. In particular, their owner has been in trouble in the DOTA scene for running a betting site and using behind-the-scenes info... https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/517711-ruru-vpbet-potential-scandal | ||
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Also, the last teamfight, Mata eats Teddy and flashes AWAY from his team. With DWG having more chase potential, you'd want to at least surround your big damage adc with the cc/dmg to back you up, instead of nothing but jungle. There seem to be some communication issues. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/06/2019-world-championship-cities-venues-dates/ | ||
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On June 27 2019 14:56 Slusher wrote: I mean he's a solo queue star so there is always the chance he's garbage in competitive, Flarez was amazing in solo queue when he got his first chance in the LCS. That being said he's worth a look when your top laner is Dhokla. THe only real knock on him is he has a reputation for being high risk high reward with reguards to going for flashy plays. Think he needs to go the V1per route. Spend some time in Academy and get his foundations for competitive play. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/TeamLiquidLoL/status/1145439529211502598 | ||
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Iirc he and Viper are irl friends already so this is a great fit for him | ||
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On July 19 2019 09:28 JimmiC wrote: Did he miss it or did he suck at his new position? The jokes on twitter were: Patch 9.14 was so bad, Jatt got fired. AND With TFT out, there's no need to patch SR. It's good that he's back but...I hope that doesn't mean we're losing Kobe next year. | ||
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And just like that LCS 2020 will have 3 different organizations in it | ||
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https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ch0wt0/kroenke_sports_entertainment_agree_to_acquire/ Group buying the spot were the people behind Phoenix 1. | ||
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On July 24 2019 12:49 Gahlo wrote: Good, and not because of the normal "I hate the Rick Fox cult of personality excusing a shit team" angle. Anybody org that chooses to leave the League instead of getting rid of a racist shitbag shouldn't be in it in the first place. https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ch0wt0/kroenke_sports_entertainment_agree_to_acquire/ Group buying the spot were the people behind Phoenix 1. Ah fuck not Kroenke. Arsenal fans gonna be triggered by that name...Guess Echo Fox is gonna stay trash. | ||
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On July 24 2019 12:49 Gahlo wrote: Good, and not because of the normal "I hate the Rick Fox cult of personality excusing a shit team" angle. Anybody org that chooses to leave the League instead of getting rid of a racist shitbag shouldn't be in it in the first place. https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ch0wt0/kroenke_sports_entertainment_agree_to_acquire/ Group buying the spot were the people behind Phoenix 1. Well that investment group got 30 million for a spot they bought for 10. I feel like this little escapade turned out to be quite profitable for them. | ||
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Imagine a 2020 LCS with fucking Dignitas, Immortals and EG/Complexity | ||
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It's quite incredible how in other regions, jungle is seen as the old man role with the highest average age and in China it's the youngest role with so many rookies pushing for spots. | ||
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https://mobile.twitter.com/100thieves/status/1169324291596402688 | ||
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On September 05 2019 07:07 Sent. wrote: How does working 4 years as a caster make you qualified to manage an LCS team? https://mobile.twitter.com/100thieves/status/1169324291596402688 He's streamed his analysis of vods from other regions, so that much in his own right provides credentials for coaching/analyst work. As far as managing, I guess that would depend on what the position entails in the org. | ||
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iG vs JDG was a meme series, Jackey must have back problems carrying this wreck of a team. Rookie's Irelia looked boosted, TheShy looked great except he was also on the most broken champion of the season (Akali needs to be hammered before Worlds). And JDG putting Yagao on Karma duty really sucked as a viewer. | ||
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Yeah, idfk what JD were doing with Yagao. | ||
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I hope some Western team puts a boot in iG's face, but the truth is they're probably going to do the exact same thing as last year, outplay opponents and push wins through with their individual ability. | ||
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Really matured as a player. Before I thought Baolan was hard carrying him, now I think it's the other way around. | ||
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Meanwhile the rest of iG has decided to unlearn the little macro they possessed last season. The mechanics are still there, but Rookie and TheShy seem to have undergone a lobotomy, so many bad plays. The new jungler is OK, his Elise game was impressive though. | ||
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Splyce will become Mad Lions in 2020 | ||
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Echo Fox slot now belongs to EG. Really happy that LCS will have so many OG brands next year | ||
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On September 27 2019 18:13 DarkCore wrote: Old esport brands with history seem to be more interesting than teams with sponsors getting in solely for advertising purposes. Even if its all about money, the people running the former teams seem to have more personal vested interests, fewer shady investors. Ehhhhh...there have been some shady fucking investors. In fact, the EG brand itself is far from clean. That said, I don't even know how many people from the OG EG are even around in this anymore. It might just be similar to Dignitas. Keep the old brand for fans and recognition but entirely new back office. | ||
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Pawn Retires due to mental health problems | ||
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Trick gone from S04 | ||
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Bjerg now part owner of TSM, which I think is a recipe for disaster and will only fuel the "conspiracy theories" that he forces his junglers to do what he wants. I think its a terrible idea to make a single player a part owner without the other 4 | ||
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On October 16 2019 09:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: I agree with that, but I think that implicitly being above the team and explicitly being above the team are two different beasts. Not like you could convince me TSM had a good environment before, but I think making one player explicitly more important than the rest is a recipe for disaster. one player being more invested in a team is not the same as one player being more important in the team. bjergsen is both but they are mutually exclusive of each other. he could be let go of the team and hed still hold his stake so theres no difference. | ||
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On October 16 2019 14:10 evilfatsh1t wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2019 09:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: I agree with that, but I think that implicitly being above the team and explicitly being above the team are two different beasts. Not like you could convince me TSM had a good environment before, but I think making one player explicitly more important than the rest is a recipe for disaster. one player being more invested in a team is not the same as one player being more important in the team. bjergsen is both but they are mutually exclusive of each other. he could be let go of the team and hed still hold his stake so theres no difference. That's the interesting part. What happens if 100T buy Bjerg. Does he have to sell his stake in the team? | ||
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On October 16 2019 15:26 AdsMoFro wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2019 14:10 evilfatsh1t wrote: On October 16 2019 09:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: I agree with that, but I think that implicitly being above the team and explicitly being above the team are two different beasts. Not like you could convince me TSM had a good environment before, but I think making one player explicitly more important than the rest is a recipe for disaster. one player being more invested in a team is not the same as one player being more important in the team. bjergsen is both but they are mutually exclusive of each other. he could be let go of the team and hed still hold his stake so theres no difference. That's the interesting part. What happens if 100T buy Bjerg. Does he have to sell his stake in the team? a) TSM would have to agree to it. b) Bjerg would have to sell his shares. | ||
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It's also simply a way of binding him in another way than via his player contract, making it more likely he stays while playing or after quitting. Maybe Regi (presumably current sole owner?) is making it easier for himself to quit in a few years, that's also a possibility. The way the original article is written, it suggests a lot of change to me. | ||
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On October 17 2019 02:09 Yorbon wrote: It's naive to a priori think it doesn't make any difference at all, but the effect on the team will depend mostly on other things, like culture or incentive (dividend?). From my experience in a (completely) different sector at one of the big four, the difference between an equity partner and a salary partner (partner with or without ownership) is huge in terms of dominance in internal discussions. Dependent on the exact agreement with Bjerg, the difference may be big or small, and the result be good or bad. It's also simply a way of binding him in another way than via his player contract, making it more likely he stays while playing or after quitting. Maybe Regi (presumably current sole owner?) is making it easier for himself to quit in a few years, that's also a possibility. The way the original article is written, it suggests a lot of change to me. Last I heard Regi had to sell some of the company for fundraising, but remains the only person that is still a majority owner of their team. | ||
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On October 17 2019 03:58 Gahlo wrote: Ah, I didn't know that, thanks!Show nested quote + On October 17 2019 02:09 Yorbon wrote: It's naive to a priori think it doesn't make any difference at all, but the effect on the team will depend mostly on other things, like culture or incentive (dividend?). From my experience in a (completely) different sector at one of the big four, the difference between an equity partner and a salary partner (partner with or without ownership) is huge in terms of dominance in internal discussions. Dependent on the exact agreement with Bjerg, the difference may be big or small, and the result be good or bad. It's also simply a way of binding him in another way than via his player contract, making it more likely he stays while playing or after quitting. Maybe Regi (presumably current sole owner?) is making it easier for himself to quit in a few years, that's also a possibility. The way the original article is written, it suggests a lot of change to me. Last I heard Regi had to sell some of the company for fundraising, but remains the only person that is still a majority owner of their team. | ||
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It seems like it might have been announced by Riot Korea but I couldn't find any official Riot statement on it in English (maybe because of timezones? But I didn't look suuuuper hard) | ||
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On October 18 2019 14:16 Turbovolver wrote: Where are we talking about the stuff with Griffin? I don't know what sites are actually reputable or not (eSports journalism lol) but I have seen stuff suggesting Riot is now investigating Griffin management, one site said they've already let Manager Cho go after what cvMax said but the site seemed dodgy. It seems like it might have been announced by Riot Korea but I couldn't find any official Riot statement on it in English (maybe because of timezones? But I didn't look suuuuper hard) Still8 (owners) made a public statement about it. https://still8.gg/ tl;dr with google translate: They apologise to cvMax and fans. Cho is fired. They are investigating. Out of concern for their players they will wait to after Worlds for a more indepth statement. | ||
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While I think that EG.Dardoch was the perfect brand synergy, Sven is a beast and so is Zeyzal. Really surprised C9 let either go, especially Zeyzal, as they don't have another support near his level https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/28042023/sources-evil-geniuses-acquire-svenskeren-zeyzal-cloud9 The ESPN article says Kumo and Deftly go too, but not necessarily as starters | ||
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On November 10 2019 09:21 chipmonklord17 wrote: https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/evil-geniuses-reportedly-pick-up-svenskeren-and-zeyzal-from-cloud9 While I think that EG.Dardoch was the perfect brand synergy, Sven is a beast and so is Zeyzal. Really surprised C9 let either go, especially Zeyzal, as they don't have another support near his level https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/28042023/sources-evil-geniuses-acquire-svenskeren-zeyzal-cloud9 The ESPN article says Kumo and Deftly go too, but not necessarily as starters C9 once again letting go of stars TF??? Going to make another offseason transfer thread after Worlds ends. Silly season is almost upon us! | ||
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On November 10 2019 12:20 AdsMoFro wrote: Show nested quote + On November 10 2019 09:21 chipmonklord17 wrote: https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/evil-geniuses-reportedly-pick-up-svenskeren-and-zeyzal-from-cloud9 While I think that EG.Dardoch was the perfect brand synergy, Sven is a beast and so is Zeyzal. Really surprised C9 let either go, especially Zeyzal, as they don't have another support near his level https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/28042023/sources-evil-geniuses-acquire-svenskeren-zeyzal-cloud9 The ESPN article says Kumo and Deftly go too, but not necessarily as starters C9 once again letting go of stars TF??? Going to make another offseason transfer thread after Worlds ends. Silly season is almost upon us! There were some Tusin to NA rumors so maybe that's why they got rid of Zeyzal? | ||
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On November 11 2019 06:20 Sent. wrote: We should start spreading baseless rumours about who's getting replaced in Fnatic just to pretend we were the first to predict it happening. Broxah to TL is a legit rumor circling around. My guess would be Xmithe to IMT if its true | ||
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Broxah is not the problem in Fnatic, it's a team attitude thing. Who in the LEC is better than him besides Jankos? | ||
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On November 11 2019 20:25 10bulgares wrote: Watching Faker's stream right now. Did SKT change their logo ? https://upcomer.com/lol/story/1414999/end-of-an-era-skt-is-rebranding-to-t1-as-part-of-a-new-esports-venture-with-comcast That deal happened back in February, but like Clutch being bought by DIG, they couldn't change over the branding during the season. | ||
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On November 11 2019 08:54 JimmiC wrote: Why would a guy that young (in real life) retire if he can still get paid to play. It won't be long until that is not a option. He should make as much of money as he can for as long as he can and that he can move onto what ever is next. On November 11 2019 12:35 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'd be shocked if he retired, he's at worst the second best jungler in the region. No point in calling it quits. If you're burned out you're burned out. If he feels like it's effecting his play negatively he as an athelete probably has enough respect for the sport and team to retire rather than collecting a paycheck he doesn't feel earned. | ||
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Zikz to 100T | ||
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On November 12 2019 01:32 Jek wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2019 08:54 JimmiC wrote: Why would a guy that young (in real life) retire if he can still get paid to play. It won't be long until that is not a option. He should make as much of money as he can for as long as he can and that he can move onto what ever is next. Show nested quote + On November 11 2019 12:35 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'd be shocked if he retired, he's at worst the second best jungler in the region. No point in calling it quits. If you're burned out you're burned out. If he feels like it's effecting his play negatively he as an athelete probably has enough respect for the sport and team to retire rather than collecting a paycheck he doesn't feel earned. That’s the rub though he’s already known for being this good whilst practically devoting 0 time to the game outside of scrims. Between that proven effective work/life balance and having the resident value I find it really unlikely he would retire. Personally it just sounds like something a redditor would come up with because it’s the obvious best way to utilize Liquid’s import slot. Which even if it happened demand for xmithie would exist. | ||
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On November 12 2019 04:55 starkiller123 wrote: sometimes I think I enjoy off season roster season as much as the actually seasons lol. It does suck having nothing to watch for months though. More international competition when Definitely the case in seasons when there's a lot of movement, like when franchising in. With teams cycling out NA is going to be a wild ride in the offseason. | ||
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2.3 million for Huni | ||
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On November 12 2019 23:00 DarkCore wrote: Don't get it either, does he really have that many fans? Like everyone who watches League since his days in Fnatic know who he is, and I considered him popular when he was good, but these days nobody considers him world class, and I haven't seen much of him besides World's. Does he have a KR following still? Yep, the reason he's getting that much is because of branding. | ||
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Also seen rumors that Rekkles is leaving Fnatic, which would be surprising, but lowkey hoping for it because I want to see the rest of the team without him for once. Pre season rumor mill is so much fun! | ||
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On November 12 2019 23:52 Gahlo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2019 23:00 DarkCore wrote: Don't get it either, does he really have that many fans? Like everyone who watches League since his days in Fnatic know who he is, and I considered him popular when he was good, but these days nobody considers him world class, and I haven't seen much of him besides World's. Does he have a KR following still? Yep, the reason he's getting that much is because of branding. That's still a ridiculous amount to pay for a player though. He's good, but you could definitely find another top laner as well who would be equal in skill for a fraction the price. I find it hard to believe that ROI on Huni would be worth anywhere close to that value. Anything short of winning worlds in the next 2 years(esp. considering NA didn't even make it out of groups) probably wouldn't do it. | ||
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On November 13 2019 02:14 DarkCore wrote: Upset leaving SO4, looks like the team is being gutted unless they are actually going to spend big. Some people on reddit are speculating on Upset going to OG, though personally I think Patrik is just as good. Also seen rumors that Rekkles is leaving Fnatic, which would be surprising, but lowkey hoping for it because I want to see the rest of the team without him for once. Pre season rumor mill is so much fun! Maybe upset or Patrik are replacing Rekkles? | ||
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On November 13 2019 04:04 JimmiC wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2019 02:14 DarkCore wrote: Upset leaving SO4, looks like the team is being gutted unless they are actually going to spend big. Some people on reddit are speculating on Upset going to OG, though personally I think Patrik is just as good. Also seen rumors that Rekkles is leaving Fnatic, which would be surprising, but lowkey hoping for it because I want to see the rest of the team without him for once. Pre season rumor mill is so much fun! Maybe upset or Patrik are replacing Rekkles? I could get behind this, theyre both good enough for Fnatic, and young enough to mould. But it would be funny if Nemesis managed to somehow get crownshot. | ||
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On November 13 2019 04:02 Amui wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2019 23:52 Gahlo wrote: On November 12 2019 23:00 DarkCore wrote: Don't get it either, does he really have that many fans? Like everyone who watches League since his days in Fnatic know who he is, and I considered him popular when he was good, but these days nobody considers him world class, and I haven't seen much of him besides World's. Does he have a KR following still? Yep, the reason he's getting that much is because of branding. That's still a ridiculous amount to pay for a player though. He's good, but you could definitely find another top laner as well who would be equal in skill for a fraction the price. I find it hard to believe that ROI on Huni would be worth anywhere close to that value. Anything short of winning worlds in the next 2 years(esp. considering NA didn't even make it out of groups) probably wouldn't do it. Huni is one of the more popular players in the league. Sponsors care about that. The whole reason TSM lost the Gillette sponsorship this year was because Bjergsen grew a beard. | ||
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Youngbuck out at Fnatic. Kind of surprised. It definitely was surprising that they dropped Dylan after the world's finals run, then dropped Joey a year later | ||
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On November 13 2019 04:02 Amui wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2019 23:52 Gahlo wrote: On November 12 2019 23:00 DarkCore wrote: Don't get it either, does he really have that many fans? Like everyone who watches League since his days in Fnatic know who he is, and I considered him popular when he was good, but these days nobody considers him world class, and I haven't seen much of him besides World's. Does he have a KR following still? Yep, the reason he's getting that much is because of branding. That's still a ridiculous amount to pay for a player though. He's good, but you could definitely find another top laner as well who would be equal in skill for a fraction the price. I find it hard to believe that ROI on Huni would be worth anywhere close to that value. Anything short of winning worlds in the next 2 years(esp. considering NA didn't even make it out of groups) probably wouldn't do it. Could you though, like which better toplaner would want to go to an NA team at the moment? I haven't seen too much NA / Clutch at worlds, but I guess he made worlds with the team so he can't be worse than any of the other NA toplaners? | ||
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