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Pyke will be released this patch. To find out more about him, check here!
Patch 8.11: Live on May. 31st, 2018
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70% damage reduction on minions from the new banner of command is probably not enough. I get that 100% magic damage reduction was problematic but wish they kept it higher than 70%.
edit: guess I was wrong again
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Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.
Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.
Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?
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I was kinda hoping for a Zoe nerf because I've gotten really bored of playing her.
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Lol, did they really change Vayne’s base health from 598 to 515? That has to be a typo right?
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On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote: Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.
Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.
Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?
Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER.
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On May 31 2018 09:07 ghrur wrote: Lol, did they really change Vayne’s base health from 598 to 515? That has to be a typo right?
I think it's supposed to be 615, adcs had their armor nerfed and the health buffed by an equal gold amount as a uniform change.
Pyke's passive not allowing him to build health is going to make support LB a hilarious counter especially when he's in his experimental phase.
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On May 31 2018 09:50 Ethelis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote: Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.
Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.
Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus? Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER. Why would kog build essence reaver? There is a 30 second cooldown on the new essence flare passive. If kog wants to keep it for a teamfight, that means he can't use R to clear waves or jungle camps. If it doesn't hurt her damage too much, sivir should still consider it. She can use the mana, her spells had a lot of damage and she uses her ult at the start of teamfights.
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I predict Pyke to get destroyed in the laning phase versus real kill lanes. No health itemization just sounds really gimmicky, as if they ran out of ideas for new abilities.
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Only thing that stood out to me as weird is the baron damage decrease. Are they a bit, perhaps... indecisive?
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Everyone one says it’s so good but the flare being tied to ult seems very clunky and will definitely influence what characters can even use it.
I really just don’t like the item that n paper much at all it only lasts 8 seconds I’d take 30% cdr permenant any day of the week . The only advantage I can see is mana return on 1 item . I get that this patch is an adc nerf patch but I don’t get the hype with this item.
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On May 31 2018 13:45 NpG)Explosive wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2018 09:50 Ethelis wrote:On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote: Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.
Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.
Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus? Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER. Why would kog build essence reaver? There is a 30 second cooldown on the new essence flare passive. If kog wants to keep it for a teamfight, that means he can't use R to clear waves or jungle camps. If it doesn't hurt her damage too much, sivir should still consider it. She can use the mana, her spells had a lot of damage and she uses her ult at the start of teamfights.
I imagine if it becomes overtuned he would wreck in skirmishes.
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Not an ADC, but the new essence reaver could be really strong on Jax. Get the attack speed up with his passive; then pop R, ready E and Q into a fight. With Jax doing almost 2 attacks per second and each attack reducing 40% remaining cooldown he would practically have his E back up moments after it went off. W would be practically every other or every third attack. And his in fight mobility with q coming back up would be bonkers.
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how is no one thinking of ez with essence reaver. hes gonna have like 2 second q's and 4 second e's
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lucian also is busted with essence reaver
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I remember people on the Riven subreddit were kinda excited about new ER for a bit, then the new fighter items got revealed.
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On May 31 2018 19:41 evilfatsh1t wrote: how is no one thinking of ez with essence reaver. hes gonna have like 2 second q's and 4 second e's But he already had that.
I think new essence reaver is highly overvalued. On Ez it doesnt fit in the build path plus the 20% missing CD doesn't really affect him on his Q. I tried it on Lucian and it didn't feel as good as I was expecting. Most fights my starting DPS was higher if i didnt use ult, so i chose that option instead, plus most of the fights were already over by the time the effect kicked in. Apart from those 2, who really uses it? All I could think of was MF, Ashe and Sivir, but for the last 2 it delays getting crit and with MF the fights are usually over once her ult finishes anyway.
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I think it will be better on assassins and bruisers who ult to start fights. Wu yi talon, guys like that.
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It would be good on Lucian if it was an active item. I really hate it being tied to ult.
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