Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully.
Much easier to balance.
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully. Much easier to balance. | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
On March 11 2017 07:42 iCanada wrote: Imo you remove all damage from her W at all. Let Q clear waves with mediocrity, then add a damage amp while they chained. No chain, no kill. W becomes a 1 point wonder. Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully. Much easier to balance. That's basically my thoughts as well. Make W basically Graves' smokescreen for mobility (I think there are technical reasons you need it to do at least 1 damage, but maybe that changed). | ||
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 11 2017 09:09 cLutZ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2017 07:42 iCanada wrote: Imo you remove all damage from her W at all. Let Q clear waves with mediocrity, then add a damage amp while they chained. No chain, no kill. W becomes a 1 point wonder. Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully. Much easier to balance. That's basically my thoughts as well. Make W basically Graves' smokescreen for mobility (I think there are technical reasons you need it to do at least 1 damage, but maybe that changed). Iirc it's for tower aggrieved and recalls, for example zilian bomb does 1 true damage on latch to prevent ridiculous tower pressure | ||
GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
https://www.invenglobal.com/lol/articles/1236 Also as a highlight | ||
kongoline
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8517 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On March 14 2017 08:27 evilfatsh1t wrote: is that meant to be a troll post or is he just that good at lb where he can still make it work A combination of people overreacting and him being good I suppose. He's maxing Q first now. From what I can search up his only loss on LB after nerf has been his team feeding their ass off. | ||
dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
its more so that her teamfighting got way more trash and her late game is pretty much non existant so yeah I can see him simply snowballing soloq games like he probably always did before in competitive i think its a risk not worth taking but who knows, pro lb has always been a bit different from soloq lb | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8517 Posts
On March 14 2017 09:03 Jek wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2017 08:27 evilfatsh1t wrote: is that meant to be a troll post or is he just that good at lb where he can still make it work A combination of people overreacting and him being good I suppose. He's maxing Q first now. From what I can search up his only loss on LB after nerf has been his team feeding their ass off. well yeah, everyone from bronze to challenger knew that you had to max q first now. it still doesnt solve the fact that your mobility skill is 15 seconds long and does a measly 100dmg. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22799 Posts
1 Ryze 38 2 Leb 43 3 Azir 43 4 Corki 47 5 vik 47 Bot 5 are practically the top 5 for pros. And zed shows up at 8th worst winrate. LOL (for plat and above according to champion.gg) | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 14 2017 22:49 JimmiC wrote: For Mid especially its amazing how pro play and solo q are the inverse here is bottom winrate for mid 1 Ryze 38 2 Leb 43 3 Azir 43 4 Corki 47 5 vik 47 Bot 5 are practically the top 5 for pros. And zed shows up at 8th worst winrate. LOL (for plat and above according to champion.gg) Leblanc changes haven't hit pro yet, Corki hasn't been played that often lately either. | ||
Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On March 14 2017 22:49 JimmiC wrote: For Mid especially its amazing how pro play and solo q are the inverse here is bottom winrate for mid 1 Ryze 38 2 Leb 43 3 Azir 43 4 Corki 47 5 vik 47 Bot 5 are practically the top 5 for pros. And zed shows up at 8th worst winrate. LOL (for plat and above according to champion.gg) Cant really say I'm surprised, except about Viktor, they are all champions with a fairly high skillfloor and you have to play around as a team. Likewise Shen for instance has a pretty low winratio in yoloQ too - appearently in last patch only Ryze and Aatrox had worse ratios in toplane lol. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
In general I think it's probably a problem if a top pro pick is popular AND does well in solo queue. | ||
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 15 2017 01:25 GrandInquisitor wrote: Plus remember all the players that are like I WANT TO HARD CARRY MY BRONZE 3 PROMOS ON RYZE JUST LIKE BJERGSEN CARRIED TSM. In general I think it's probably a problem if a top pro pick is popular AND does well in solo queue. I also don't find a problem with the distinction. It disappoints me it comes up as a supposed problem so often. Not just here(if that's what is even happening) but by riot themselves at times. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22799 Posts
Solo Q champs better do well early. We have all been in games when its like 3-1 and you got people going GG or I'm done and they are allready in full tilt poor me mode. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On March 15 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: People like to say its bronze's but the stats are for Plats a higher. So I get there is a big difference between play and challanger but these are people who understand the basics of the game. It has more to do with the team work and communication of the pro teams I think. And team based strategies. Like good luck tell your team I'm playing ryze mid lets worry about the macro game and unlock my power 30 mins or whatever. Solo Q champs better do well early. We have all been in games when its like 3-1 and you got people going GG or I'm done and they are allready in full tilt poor me mode. Your point is well-taken as to Rek'Sai, Tahm Kench, Shen, etc., but I'm making a slightly different point, which is that people always copy the pros, and that in and of itself lowers those champions' winrate regardless of what champion it is. Even solo queue heroes suffer when they get popular in LCS. | ||
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