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God damnit, that's the end of G2, such a tragedy. EU scene is seriously lacking in funds compared to NA, it's a travesty and just depressing seeing teams get torn apart after they perform. EU is like NA's Challenger scene, except NA never performs when it matters.
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On November 20 2017 05:01 DarkCore wrote:God damnit, that's the end of G2, such a tragedy. EU scene is seriously lacking in funds compared to NA, it's a travesty and just depressing seeing teams get torn apart after they perform. EU is like NA's Challenger scene, except NA never performs when it matters.
Beating EU at joke events matters. To casual fans, at least.
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Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what.
Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)?
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I think they might go with MikeYeung simplely because I think he still got room to grow as well as being a decent jungler but the question would be would TSM risk it on a rookie player like MikeYeung.
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Maybe TSM wants to hoard talent like TL and have multiple roster variations available, e.g. Hauntzer/NAjungler/Bjerg/Zven/Mithy, and KRTop/Sven/Bjerg/Double/Biofrost
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It's questionable that Double/Bio (Double esp) would want to play rotating Bot with Zven/Mithy. They can end up as starter on just about any other NA LCS team.
Also, I don't think TSM can have a KR Top and Sven on the roster. afaik, it's two imports per roster, not two imports per lineup you field in a match. Hoarding talent only works if they're NA players. (see: TL)
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On November 20 2017 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote: Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what.
Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)? Bjerg and Mike have been duoing a lot for the last couple weeks. Though people say Bjerg will go around and duo with other junglers pretty often for short periods of time.
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On November 20 2017 05:58 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote: Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what.
Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)? Bjerg and Mike have been duoing a lot for the last couple weeks. Though people say Bjerg will go around and duo with other junglers pretty often for short periods of time. Counterpoint to that is that they're "prepping" for All-Star. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
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On November 20 2017 05:34 NeoIllusions wrote: It's questionable that Double/Bio (Double esp) would want to play rotating Bot with Zven/Mithy. They can end up as starter on just about any other NA LCS team.
Also, I don't think TSM can have a KR Top and Sven on the roster. afaik, it's two imports per roster, not two imports per lineup you field in a match. Hoarding talent only works if they're NA players. (see: TL)
No you can have as many imports as you want. But the lineup has to be 3 residents 2 imports on game day. TL had Mickey/Reignover/Piglet at end of the year for e.g.
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On November 20 2017 01:19 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 00:21 cLutZ wrote: Ahh yes. To keep the worse SKT ADC after one just limited through worlds. Genius What na adcs are better then him?
Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside.
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Because i dont believe in a worlds or bust model? If you could win na hell finish and compete that would be alot better then they have been
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On November 20 2017 07:58 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 01:19 JimmiC wrote:On November 20 2017 00:21 cLutZ wrote: Ahh yes. To keep the worse SKT ADC after one just limited through worlds. Genius What na adcs are better then him? Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside. I'd say having bad imports is worse than having bad domestic talent.
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On November 20 2017 08:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 07:58 cLutZ wrote:On November 20 2017 01:19 JimmiC wrote:On November 20 2017 00:21 cLutZ wrote: Ahh yes. To keep the worse SKT ADC after one just limited through worlds. Genius What na adcs are better then him? Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside. I'd say having bad imports is worse than having bad domestic talent. Disagree. Bad domestic players can be popular for personality.
Also re:Jimmy it's not a worlds or bust model, it's just recognizing that having a veteran that isn't even a hard carry in na is dumb. Doubly so now that you can't be relegated. I mean, ffs Piglet isn't even some "rock" where you can give him no attention and he won't tilt.
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But if hes better then your other option and not a import slot he makes you better, if you think codysun is a better player you keep him. But i think piglet is better, especially in certain metas
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On November 20 2017 08:15 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 08:09 Gahlo wrote:On November 20 2017 07:58 cLutZ wrote:On November 20 2017 01:19 JimmiC wrote:On November 20 2017 00:21 cLutZ wrote: Ahh yes. To keep the worse SKT ADC after one just limited through worlds. Genius What na adcs are better then him? Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside. I'd say having bad imports is worse than having bad domestic talent. Disagree. Bad domestic players can be popular for personality. Also re:Jimmy it's not a worlds or bust model, it's just recognizing that having a veteran that isn't even a hard carry in na is dumb. Doubly so now that you can't be relegated. I mean, ffs Piglet isn't even some "rock" where you can give him no attention and he won't tilt. Bad imports can be popular for personality too.
Import slots are a limited resources. Using them for little/no gain over other options is an ineffective use of that resource.
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On November 20 2017 08:19 JimmiC wrote: But if hes better then your other option and not a import slot he makes you better, if you think codysun is a better player you keep him. But i think piglet is better, especially in certain metas Eh, its not worth it to keep low impact vets, even if they are slightly better. Smarter to just take flyers in rookies or players you think have potential but have had a bad team environment
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On November 20 2017 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote: Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what.
Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)?
Xmithie did seem like he would be a good fit for TSM.
Though don't count out a trade/swap of some sorts with Reignover (and maybe +1 like Dardoch or Inori for academy/sub?) for DL/Bio. Or maybe TSM would ask for Xmithie in exchange for DL/Bio. I wouldn't put it past them since Steve/Regi are buddy buddy and these would be mutually beneficial trades.
MikeYeung is a fine young player but I just don't see how he would be a good fit on TSM.
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This actually was a rumor started 2 weeks ago by Tarzaned, except he included the signing of Mike Yeung in the rumor. But nobody believed it because it was Tarzaned. Just want to throw out there this article in no way that they aren't just reporting on this rumor, so just want you guys to know the source might suck.
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