[Patch 8.3] Swain Remake General Discussion - Page 3
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
I was plat 1 flex last season and only played flex with my group of friends for placements. none of them were above plat 5 flex. we went 4-6 and ended up same rank at silver 1 lol. | ||
Sent.
Poland8966 Posts
Obviously not in solo q. | ||
M2
Bulgaria4076 Posts
On February 11 2018 07:22 Sent. wrote: Would it make sense to run unsealed spellbook on a jungler and some other position and then have that other player take over the smiting duty? For example you start with jungle Jax and support Taric but finish with TP Jax and smite Taric. Obviously not in solo q. Why not, my objection would be that supports are lower level which may impact the smite wars, also smite wars require high skill and could not be that easy for a non jungler. However, whats wrong with doing this in soloQ if you are duo? | ||
Sent.
Poland8966 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
Doesn’t seem like a robust primary strategy, but maybe it’s a decent way to turn a 100% lost game to a 50% coin flipping random mess. | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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NapKiN16
Canada95 Posts
On February 12 2018 00:55 General_Winter wrote: On the subject of switching to smite late. One thing I haven’t tried but have wondered about. If a team has several spellbook users anyway (for example Vlad top takes spellbook, lots of mid laners take spellbook), and the team was losing the game pretty badly, I wonder if you could switch everyone to smite and rush baron more aggressively than the other team could expect or baron steal with 3 smites. Doesn’t seem like a robust primary strategy, but maybe it’s a decent way to turn a 100% lost game to a 50% coin flipping random mess. The problem is that when you switch summoners with unsealed, there is a message put into chat for both teams saying which summoner spell you switched to, so if the other team is paying attention it'd be obvious to them what you are trying to do... | ||
iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 11 2018 19:18 M2 wrote: Why not, my objection would be that supports are lower level which may impact the smite wars, also smite wars require high skill and could not be that easy for a non jungler. However, whats wrong with doing this in soloQ if you are duo? I think good teams dont take many 50/50 smites anyway. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On February 12 2018 14:16 iCanada wrote: I think good teams dont take many 50/50 smites anyway. I think good teams don’t take 50/50 smites unless they’re relatively behind OR what the other team will have to expend to steal will cost them the game | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8513 Posts
On February 12 2018 04:23 NapKiN16 wrote: The problem is that when you switch summoners with unsealed, there is a message put into chat for both teams saying which summoner spell you switched to, so if the other team is paying attention it'd be obvious to them what you are trying to do... yeah this is why 5 smite strats wouldnt work. the opposing team is going to see the 5 smites and theyll just face rush you or out macro with tp and vision all over baron/elder. itd be funny if the enemy team had cho, nunu and kalista in their lineup anyway hahah | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
isnt that only an extra 2-3k damage on baron while basically announcing you're doing it? and also being down 5 summoner spells for the next teamfight? i think you would have a better chance at the baron by just sneaking it without the tp. 2-3k extra damage on baron + announcing you're going to do it doesn't seem that much better than simply sneaking it and having to expend flashes to escape if needed. and unlike the former, you don't have to finish it. can just peel off if needed whereas with the tp smite approach there's no backing out lol. if you can't actually finish it gj you either give the chance to take the baron / ace you or you just lose 5 sum spells for free. | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On February 13 2018 07:56 dsyxelic wrote: meh too cheesy isnt that only an extra 2-3k damage on baron while basically announcing you're doing it? and also being down 5 summoner spells for the next teamfight? i think you would have a better chance at the baron by just sneaking it without the tp. 2-3k extra damage on baron + announcing you're going to do it doesn't seem that much better than simply sneaking it and having to expend flashes to escape if needed. and unlike the former, you don't have to finish it. can just peel off if needed whereas with the tp smite approach there's no backing out lol. if you can't actually finish it gj you either give the chance to take the baron / ace you or you just lose 5 sum spells for free. At the 40 minute mark, Baron has like 14k health, and smite does 1k true damage each. So you could instakill it at a third of its health, that's pretty scary. Early lategame when players aren't lv 18 it seems incredibly risky. I could also imagine it being used to secure baron after winning a fight, but not enough to take objectives. Kill an opponent for the 5vs4, recall with lowest 3-4 players, and come back immediately for that sweet baron. Even more powerful if you bait the enemy team into also recalling. | ||
Uldridge
Belgium4253 Posts
I'd say it's worth doing if you're able to get 2 mountains and can verify they just backed, or have 1/2 on other side of map and you were able to ward the pit so you can tp on it. But.. is it worth taking 5 spelbook (or 4 + jungle) just to wager it all on a potential fast baron? | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
On February 13 2018 17:23 DarkCore wrote: At the 40 minute mark, Baron has like 14k health, and smite does 1k true damage each. So you could instakill it at a third of its health, that's pretty scary. Early lategame when players aren't lv 18 it seems incredibly risky. I could also imagine it being used to secure baron after winning a fight, but not enough to take objectives. Kill an opponent for the 5vs4, recall with lowest 3-4 players, and come back immediately for that sweet baron. Even more powerful if you bait the enemy team into also recalling. Your plan of recalling is more likely to lose y'all an objective to the enemy chickens than to gain you one. | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Gahlo
United States34964 Posts
Reading just the first half of her passive makes me thing her laning with Braum will be disgusting. Congrats on taking exacutes and getting stunned. Wonder if making use of the second half on every ability forces her down set itemization like a Gunblade/Rageblade core. Q: Conal? Champ based AOE? Need to see the video. W: The reveal on hit is kinda nice, but the rest of the ability seems kinda generic. E: I could see this ability getting pretty dumb if she's able to jungle decently. R: Nothing personnel kid. | ||
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