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On March 15 2017 02:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: People like to say its bronze's but the stats are for Plats a higher. So I get there is a big difference between play and challanger but these are people who understand the basics of the game. It has more to do with the team work and communication of the pro teams I think. And team based strategies. Like good luck tell your team I'm playing ryze mid lets worry about the macro game and unlock my power 30 mins or whatever.
Solo Q champs better do well early. We have all been in games when its like 3-1 and you got people going GG or I'm done and they are allready in full tilt poor me mode. Your point is well-taken as to Rek'Sai, Tahm Kench, Shen, etc., but I'm making a slightly different point, which is that people always copy the pros, and that in and of itself lowers those champions' winrate regardless of what champion it is. Even solo queue heroes suffer when they get popular in LCS.
that is somewhat true. But I think its more true that they are simply different games. Coordination and communication change what is powerful and relevant. Sure maybe the winrates drop 2% or something when people try out what they see in lcs. But it doesn't explain 37%. And more than that it is just interesting that right now it is basically a inverse relationship between what is popular in LCS and what is losing in solo q.
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For me with Ryze I keep telling myself that champ will get nerfed before I master it. Ie the rework before this one where that literally happened. Except instead of nerfed they reworked him.
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On March 15 2017 04:24 Slusher wrote: For me with Ryze I keep telling myself that champ will get nerfed before I master it. Ie the rework before this one where that literally happened. Except instead of nerfed they reworked him. Isn't every attempt to balance Ryze literally a rework? :^)
I honestly dont think they will ever be able to make a balanced version with their current f a n t a s y of him.
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I can't imagine they would nerf him at his current winrate. Prob just leave him as is. Since he is played in pro and solo Q. and just let his winrate suck for solo q.
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Mk3 Ryze had the same discrepancy
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Ok so I played the "new" Aatrox in an ARAM. I'm amazed at how much worse he feels now (please forgive the fact that it is just once in an ARAM). I feel like if they did all the changes but left Bloodwell alone he would feel very fun to play.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
For me, the biggest problem with LB is her 1 point in E but still does half your HP because of passive. I think they could have kept her W damage and done something with her passive and she would have been OK.
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I mean what they did (hilariously) is workable, damage to champions isn't he problem now, she just has issues landing damage and safely farming before 13, which sounds ok but her lategame wasn't really good before and this does not buff it.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Yeah, seems to me they really just tried to kill her until they can figure out what to really do.
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the answer is to bring back season 6 lb. i dont get why they had to change her
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I mean they want all assasins to take more than a fraction of a second to kill now, that's why sigil is gone. The problem is late game a lot of other champions can just kill you in that window.
Meanwhile mages with late game burst are still one cycling people without putting their bodies at risk. So yea I'd basically take the pre assasin update version of all of them except maybe kat.
anyway I'm just glad there aren't 3 op edge of nights per team every game rendering Fizz literally unplayable.
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Well, 1.5 s for her passive to vest is really dumb, you have to be stupid OP in damage for that to be a thing.
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Pretty sure the funniest moments in LOL right now are when WW misses a ult. It looks hilarious as he flies by
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On March 17 2017 21:55 JimmiC wrote: Pretty sure the funniest moments in LOL right now are when WW misses a ult. It looks hilarious as he flies by I love when his Q follow a flash under a tower, I know I laughed when I did it. The lols were worth giving my lane opponent first blood. Haven't done or seen it vs TP yet, but would love to.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Doing some stats on my old games when I ran into this bizarre game:
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2090773702/eog?tab=overview
Vi ended the game with 0 damage dealt to champions. This isn't rounded down - I checked the API and she legit just never damaged an enemy champion. But somehow Vi got an assist! The game is from 2016, so plants are out of the question. Her only items are blue smite warrior, boots, ruby crystal, and a long sword. She obviously doesn't have an Exhaust.
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My only guess is that she commenced ult on some one but died before reaching them, not sure if that counts as an assist.
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On March 18 2017 00:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:Doing some stats on my old games when I ran into this bizarre game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2090773702/eog?tab=overviewVi ended the game with 0 damage dealt to champions. This isn't rounded down - I checked the API and she legit just never damaged an enemy champion. But somehow Vi got an assist! The game is from 2016, so plants are out of the question. Her only items are blue smite warrior, boots, ruby crystal, and a long sword. She obviously doesn't have an Exhaust. ???
Do you have the replay available?
If so could you not just watch the replay until her Assist-gold splashed and figure it out from there?
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:03 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 00:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:Doing some stats on my old games when I ran into this bizarre game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2090773702/eog?tab=overviewVi ended the game with 0 damage dealt to champions. This isn't rounded down - I checked the API and she legit just never damaged an enemy champion. But somehow Vi got an assist! The game is from 2016, so plants are out of the question. Her only items are blue smite warrior, boots, ruby crystal, and a long sword. She obviously doesn't have an Exhaust. ??? Do you have the replay available? If so could you not just watch the replay until her Assist-gold splashed and figure it out from there? No, the game is from Feb 2016, a more innocent time when we didn't have replays or sandbox.
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On March 18 2017 00:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:Doing some stats on my old games when I ran into this bizarre game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2090773702/eog?tab=overviewVi ended the game with 0 damage dealt to champions. This isn't rounded down - I checked the API and she legit just never damaged an enemy champion. But somehow Vi got an assist! The game is from 2016, so plants are out of the question. Her only items are blue smite warrior, boots, ruby crystal, and a long sword. She obviously doesn't have an Exhaust. ??? I would guess that she smite/hit one of zac's reviving blobs and it may be not counted as damage since he doesnt have the original health bar then, but its just a guess
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On March 18 2017 00:43 VayneAuthority wrote: My only guess is that she commenced ult on some one but died before reaching them, not sure if that counts as an assist.
The assist might have come from the knockback it does to others as you are running to the target if I had to guess.
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